Wednesday, November 30, 2011


date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:10:41 +0100
from: "Naomi Law"
subject: RE: Names and a few articles
to: "Phil Jones"

Thank you very much for this - and for talking to me earlier. It is good to have made
contact with you and the CRU.

I haven't fully digested everything here yet but am looking forward to doing so. Is it ok
if I keep your contact details in our records so that, if appropriate, either I or my
colleagues can get in touch again at a later stage of the research process?

Thanks again and best wishes,


From: Phil Jones []
Sent: 22 July 2008 10:57
To: Naomi Law
Subject: Names and a few articles

These names will just be starting points.
Peru/Ecuador and the impacts of El Nino
on civilizations across South America -
Ricardo García Herrera
Dto. Física de la Tierra II
Facultad de CC Físicas
Universidad Complutense
Ciudad Universitaria s/n
28040 Madrid
tel (34)913944490
fax (34) 913944635
Polynesia -
Luc ORTLIEB, Directeur de l'UR 055 "PALEOTROPIQUE"
Paléoenvironnements tropicaux et variabilité climatique
Institut de Recherche pour le Développement (IRD)
32 avenue Henri-Varagnat, F-93143 Bondy Cedex, France
Tel. : (33) / (0)148025592, [1]
Assistante: Nathalie Teinturier [2]
Tel.: (33) / (0)148025637 ; Fax: (33) / (0)148025554
Greenland Ice Dating
Bo Vinther
I don't have an email tail for him.
I have attached a paper about AD 536
Bo also has a paper on the near exact dates of the Younger Dryas
events about 11,000 years ago and two other more recent events 8.2
and 4.3 K years ago.
In dating these ice cores Bo has also been dragged into the date of
the Thera eruption (16th century BC) which led to the ending of the
Minoan civilization. There have been programmes before on this, so
I'd avoid this one. Dating of the event (to an exact year) has great implications
for the dates of pharoahs in Egypt - and also the parting of the Red Sea.
For background on this I'd take to Sturt Manning who is based at
Cornell University in New York State.
and finally Ireland
paper attached about the event in 1740. The book Arctic Ireland is by Dickson (1997).
Also attached a recent paper of mine - which is a review of documentary data
and some of the myths about these sorts of data that prevail. This relates
to the freezing of Thames in London (and why this doesn't happen now),
vine growing in England and the Norse in Greenland.
Climatically events may be one offs or a protracted cool/warm or wet/dry period.
It is likely that effects wrt civilizations would likely come from the protracted
events, except where a one off could induce a major cataclysm such as flood
(inland and/or tidal), or a complete crop failure.
I'm away on holiday all next week.
At 18:06 21/07/2008, you wrote:

Hi Phil,
That would be fine. I'll call as close to 9am as possible.
Best wishes,

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email

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