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date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:45:18 -0500
from: Henry Pollack <hpollackatXYZxyzch.edu>
subject: Re: [Wg1-ar4-ch06] SOD boreholes
to: Keith Briffa <k.briffaatXYZxyz.ac.uk>, Jonathan Overpeck <jtoatXYZxyzrizona.edu>

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Hi Keith and Peck,

Attached is the revised borehole piece, with some explicit mention of
uncertainty and some slight rephrasing in the first paragraph.

Cheers,
Henry
___ ___ Henry N. Pollack
[ \ / ] Professor of Geophysics
| \/ | Department of Geological Sciences
|MICHIGAN| University of Michigan
[___]\/[___] Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1005, U.S.A.

Phone: 734-763-0084 FAX: 734-763-4690
e-mail: hpollackatXYZxyzch.edu
URL: www.geo.lsa.umich.edu/~hpollack/
URL: www-personal.umich.edu/~hpollack/book.html


Quoting Henry Pollack <hpollackatXYZxyzch.edu>:

>
> Hi Keith and Peck,
>
> OK, I will add a sentence about uncertainty, confidence limits of the
> borehole reconstruction. Keith, please send me the change you made
> 'at the end' (mentioned in your message below), so I can see the best
> place to add the uncertainty sentence.
>
> Cheers,
> Henry
>
>
> ___ ___ Henry N. Pollack
> [ \ / ] Professor of Geophysics
> | \/ | Department of Geological Sciences
> |MICHIGAN| University of Michigan
> [___]\/[___] Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1005, U.S.A.
>
> Phone: 734-763-0084 FAX: 734-763-4690
> e-mail: hpollackatXYZxyzch.edu
> URL: www.geo.lsa.umich.edu/~hpollack/
> URL: www-personal.umich.edu/~hpollack/book.html
>
>
> Quoting Keith Briffa <k.briffaatXYZxyz.ac.uk>:
>
>> Henry
>> I understood that the previous draft was in fact going to CAs , so
>> sorry if you were out of the loop for a while. I am really happy
>> with your text , but would like some mention of the uncertainty to
>> go back in as we can not but the confidence limits in the Figure.
>> Could reconsider those one or two sentences that deal with this?I
>> have only changed one sentence a the end to make it read easier.
>> Thanks for this .
>> Keith
>> # At 22:03 12/02/2006, you wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Peck, Eystein and Keith,
>>>
>>> Attached in Borehole SOD.doc is a 'rewrite' of the borehole stuff.
>>> You will recognize the 'rewrite', as it still addresses everything
>>> in
>>> the FOD draft sent to me, with much the same language. It is,
>>> however, an improvement in
>>> structure, and has a more balanced discussion. Keith, if you want
>>> more insight into why I
>>> have presented the material this way, I'll be happy to elaborate.
>>>
>>> The rewrite occupies lines 32-57 of page 6-30 SOD and lines 1-12 of
>>> page 6-31.
>>>
>>> Also attached is the full SOD template with the 'rewrite' and
>>> references inserted. It is not clear from your instructions that
>>> you wanted this to be done, but now you have it if you want it.
>>>
>>> Also attached are my replies to the reviewers of the FOD.
>>>
>>> I am sending everything today (Sunday), so everyone will get it as
>>> early as possible.
>>>
>>> Some additional comments in areas outside the narrowly defined
>>> 'borehole' section:
>>>
>>> In Figure 6.9b, I recommend removing the instrumental record prior
>>> to 1860, because it
>>> apparently represents only four European stations. The figure is
>>> captioned to represent
>>> the entire northern hemisphere.
>>>
>>> In section 6.6.2 Southern Hemisphere Temperature Variability page
>>> 6-32, lines 56-57: The
>>> two geothermal reconstructions shown, for southern Africa and
>>> Australia, do NOT indicate
>>> unusually warm conditions prevailing in the 20th century. Both
>>> reconstructions miss the
>>> rapid warming in the last two decades of the 20th century because
>>> many of the boreholes
>>> were logged prior to that excursion. The two reconstructions do
>>> match well the pre-1980
>>> SAT trends. I discuss this in a paper now in review by J.
>>> Quaternary Sci., titled "Five
>>> centuries of climate change in Australia: the view from
>>> underground." The southern
>>> hemisphere is NOT discussed in Pollack and Smerdon (2004), which
>>> you have cited there.
>>>
>>> If you will find it helpful, I can scan the entire chapter and
>>> provide comments, but
>>> perhaps that could wait until you have passed the immediate
>>> deadline in front of you.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Henry
>>>
>>>
>>> ___ ___ Henry N. Pollack
>>> [ \ / ] Professor of Geophysics
>>> | \/ | Department of Geological Sciences
>>> |MICHIGAN| University of Michigan
>>> [___]\/[___] Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1005, U.S.A.
>>>
>>> Phone: 734-763-0084 FAX: 734-763-4690
>>> e-mail: hpollackatXYZxyzch.edu
>>> URL: www.geo.lsa.umich.edu/~hpollack/
>>> URL: www-personal.umich.edu/~hpollack/book.html
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Quoting Jonathan Overpeck <jtoatXYZxyzrizona.edu>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Henry - yes, it's true, but that's why we all get things done. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> We have a serious space problem with the chapter, and need to
>>>> generally reduce it's size. However, if you nee a couple more
>>>> lines to do it well, and to get the proper refs in there (there
>>>> are undoubtedly new ones?), you may do so. We can always cut
>>>> later... (so don't add more than just a few lines max).
>>>>
>>>> As soon as you're done, pls email to me, Eystein and Keith. The
>>>> sooner Keith can finish the complete section, the sooner we can
>>>> all look at it and edit.
>>>>
>>>> The NAS/NRC mtg is at a crappy time. I can't travel then since I'm
>>>> alone w/ the kids, but I've been discussing helping by phone if
>>>> possible. The problem is that March 3 (the day they really want my
>>>> input) is the deadline for the SOD. If it's anything like last
>>>> time (FOD), I won't have time but for a quick trip to the bathroom
>>>> now and then to recycle coffee. But, I'm glad to hear you're in
>>>> the loop. I might still be able to help, since we're trying to do
>>>> this so it isn't a madhouse at the very end.
>>>>
>>>> Best, peck
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Peck,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I will be working weekends -- don't we always??
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you attending the NAS/NRC hearing on surface temperature
>>>>> reconstructions on March 2?
>>>>>
>>>>> I will take you up on the invitation to (re)write the 40 lines of the
>>>>> borehole section.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Henry
>>>>> ___ ___ Henry N. Pollack
>>>>> [ \ / ] Professor of Geophysics
>>>>> | \/ | Department of Geological Sciences
>>>>> |MICHIGAN| University of Michigan
>>>>> [___]\/[___] Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1005, U.S.A.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phone: 734-763-0084 FAX: 734-763-4690
>>>>> e-mail: hpollackatXYZxyzch.edu
>>>>> URL: www.geo.lsa.umich.edu/~hpollack/
>>>>> URL: www-personal.umich.edu/~hpollack/book.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Jonathan Overpeck <jtoatXYZxyzrizona.edu>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Henry - see the notes below on how to best update your section
>>>>>> using the attached files (and comments you already have).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie is flying to Germany tomorrow, so I'll be single-parenting and
>>>>>> my email will be at night on the weekend. If you have urgent need for
>>>>>> input, you can call me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 970-728-0780 (home)
>>>>>> 520-907-6480 (cell - only good if I'm in town - best to use home on
>>>>>> weekends, and cell weekdays)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again, peck
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:59:33 +0100
>>>>>>> To: wg1-ar4-ch06atXYZxyzs.ucar.edu
>>>>>>> From: Eystein Jansen <Eystein.JansenatXYZxyz.uib.no>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Wg1-ar4-ch06] SOD- template and FOD document
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>>> In preparation for your rewriting of the FOD as SOD, we send you
>>>>>>> the following documents.
>>>>>>> 1. A new template for the FOD which is restructured so that the
>>>>>>> decisions on structure we made in Christchurch have been taken into
>>>>>>> account. We also send you the word version of the FOD which is the
>>>>>>> final version used for the review, in case you do not have this.
>>>>>>> This is the version for which the comments refer to.
>>>>>>> In the rewriting we would ask you to rewrite into the SOD template
>>>>>>> document, thus:
>>>>>>> 1. Find the relevant comment or section to be rewritten in the FOD.
>>>>>>> 2. Then the corresponding section in the SOD document, and rewrrite
>>>>>>> the text there. References should also be inserted into the SOD
>>>>>>> document.
>>>>>>> You have to work in parallel with both documents, but we do not see
>>>>>>> any way around this in order to arrive at a SOD without too many
>>>>>>> problems of technical sort.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers, and best luck.
>>>>>>> Peck and Eystein
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> Eystein Jansen
>>>>>>> Professor/Director
>>>>>>> Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research and
>>>>>>> Dep. of Earth Science, Univ. of Bergen
>>>>>>> All�gaten 55
>>>>>>> N-5007 Bergen
>>>>>>> NORWAY
>>>>>>> e-mail: eystein.jansenatXYZxyz.uib.no
>>>>>>> Phone: +47-55-583491 - Home: +47-55-910661
>>>>>>> Fax: +47-55-584330
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jonathan T. Overpeck
>>>>>> Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
>>>>>> Professor, Department of Geosciences
>>>>>> Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mail and Fedex Address:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jonathan T. Overpeck
>>>> Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
>>>> Professor, Department of Geosciences
>>>> Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences
>>>>
>>>> Mail and Fedex Address:
>>>>
>>>> Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
>>>> 715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor
>>>> University of Arizona
>>>> Tucson, AZ 85721
>>>> direct tel: +1 520 622-9065
>>>> fax: +1 520 792-8795
>>>> http://www.geo.arizona.edu/
>>>> http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Professor Keith Briffa,
>> Climatic Research Unit
>> University of East Anglia
>> Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.
>>
>> Phone: +44-1603-593909
>> Fax: +44-1603-507784
>>
>> http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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